文班和詹姆斯前60场数据对比引热议！球迷：苹果VS橘子

北京时间3月18日，马刺加时122-115逆转篮网，此役，文班亚马又打出历史级数据，全场出战36分钟，26投14中，其中三分球7投1中，罚球6投4中，得到33分15篮板7助攻7盖帽，这也是文班亚马NBA生涯第60场比赛。随后，美数据媒体Extra StatMuse晒出詹姆斯和文班亚马NBA生涯前60场比赛数据对比：

詹姆斯：场均20.7分5.8篮板5.6助攻1.6抢断0.8盖帽，三项命中率分别为41%/29%/77%，取得25胜35负。

文班亚马：场均20.8分10.4篮板3.5助攻1.3抢断3.5盖帽，三项命中率分别为45%/33%/80%，取得14胜46负（马刺目前战绩15胜53负，文班亚马缺阵8场中马刺1胜7负）。

在Reddit上引来热议，一起来看看球迷如何评论！

He's been great, but this is comparing apples to oranges really. The sport is the same but the game is different. LeBron was playing when 2 players that would be centers today would clog the paint on defense. FG% and scoring as a whole were way down compared to today (okay maybe not overall FG% due to volume of 3s but 2pt FG% was for sure lower).

他的表现很棒，但这其实是拿苹果和橘子作比较。运动是相同的，但比赛是不同的。詹姆斯在打球时，有两名中锋球员会在防守时堵在禁区。与今天相比，詹姆斯的投篮命中率和整体得分都大幅下降（好吧，由于三分球的数量，也许整体投篮命中率没有下降，但两分球命中率肯定是低了）。

Average ppg in 03-04: 93 ppg

This season: 114 ppg

2003-2004球队场均得分：93分

这个赛季：114分

Yeah I don’t think it’s much of a stretch at all to say rookie Wemby is as good or better than rookie LeBron. But rookie LeBron became unstoppable god-tier LeBron real quick, remains to be seen if Wemby makes that kind of improvement.

是的，我认为说新秀文班和新秀詹姆斯一样出色甚至更好一点也不为过。但新秀詹姆斯很快就成为了不可阻挡的神一样的级别，文班是否能有这样的进步还有待观察。

He wasn't an all-star caliber player as a rookie but the Cavs went from 17 to 35 wins after drafting him....

他（詹姆斯）在新秀时期并不是全明星级别的球员，但骑士队在选中他之后从17胜提升到35胜....

Brother I still have my crimson Cavs hoodie. The team wasn't all that bad. They had Carlos Boozer and big Z. LeBron from his 2nd season did carry his team to the playoffs with 50 wins guaranteed. Just felt like comparing rookie Wemby to LeBron after his first season isn't fair either.

兄弟，我还留着我那件深红色的骑士队连帽衫。那支球队并不是那么糟糕。他们有卡洛斯-布泽尔和大 Z，詹姆斯从他的第二个赛季开始，确实带队打进了季后赛，并保证取得 50 场胜利，只是觉得拿新秀文班和勒布朗第一个赛季后的表现相比也不公平。

okay lets just adjust Bron's points to today's game to get a slightly better estimate

The ppg now is 1.22580645161 times more than 03-04, so 20.7 * 1.22580645161 = ~25.4 ppg

Which is fucking INSANE for a rookie with the rest of those stats

Edit: Adjusting for ALL stat inflation Lebron's stats would look more like

25.4 PPG 6 RPG 7 APG 1.5 SPG (lower) .8 BPG (about the same, very slightly lower)

好吧，让我们把詹姆斯的得分调整到今天的比赛中，以得到一个稍微好一点的评估

现在的得分是03-04赛季的 1.22580645161 倍，所以 20.7 * 1.22580645161 25.4 分

对于一个新秀来说，这简直太疯狂了，他的其他数据也是如此

编辑：调整所有数据膨胀因素后，詹姆斯的数据看起来更像是

场均25.4分 6篮板7 助攻 1.5抢断（较低）0.8盖帽（大致相同，略低）。

It's not quite that simple because Bron also average 10 more mpg. Per100, Wemby has 34ppg and Bron at 28. But it's also not that simple because Wemby might not be able to last 10 more mpg haha. So he may have more impact over Bron per minute in rookie terms, but not over a whole game since he plays way less of it.

Either way, this is apples to oranges. Two totally different playstyles and circumstances coming into the league.

其实没那么简单，因为詹姆斯的场均上场时间也比文班多10分钟。每百回合文班可得34分，詹姆斯28分。但也没那么简单，因为文班亚马可能无法多坚持这10多分钟，哈哈。因此，就新秀而言，他每分钟的影响力可能比詹姆斯更大，但就整场比赛而言则不然，因为他的上场时间要少得多。
无论如何，这都是苹果和橘子的对比，两种完全不同的打法和完全不同的联盟环境。

LeBron was also a year younger.

当时的詹姆斯也比他小一岁。

To be fair wemby might average 6bpg in that era. But he’d also score even less efficiently I’d wager

公平地说，在那个时代，文班可能会场均6个盖帽，但我敢打赌，他的得分效率会更低。

Centers banging in the paint back in that era means Wemby would really need to be a lot sturdier to play that type of game.

You see, when a guy is banging you...

在那个时代，中锋们在油漆区内大打出手，这意味着文班真的需要更加强壮才能打出这种比赛。

你想想，当一个人在撞你的时候...

Prime Zydrubas Ilgauskas numbers likely for rookie Wemby in that era

新秀文班在那个时代可能获得巅峰时期大Z的数据。

To be fair, during Lebron's rookie season, he was the 13th leading scorer in the NBA. This year, Wemby is the 37th leading scorer in the NBA.

公平地说，在詹姆斯的新秀赛季，他在赛季场均得分榜上排第13，今年，文班是第37。

Basically every team has multiple 20 ppg guys nowadays. There are 51 players currently averaging at least 20 ppg, and 22 players averaging at least 24 ppg.

in 2004, 51st in pgg was Andrei Kirilenko with 16.4

that would be around 80th today.

如今，基本上每支球队都有多名场均 20分的球员，目前有51名球员的场均得分至少20分，22名球员的场均得分至少达到24分。

2004 年，场均16.4分的安德烈-基里连科排名第51位。而现在，安德烈-基里连科的场均得分排在80名左右。

I think the age is less important than the fact that LeBron's highest prior level of competition was in high school, whereas Wemby was playing professional ball in Europe

我认为年龄并不重要，重要的是詹姆斯来NBA了联盟之前最高水平的比赛是在高中，而文班是在欧洲打职业球联赛。

Lebron was 9th in MVP his rookie year.

詹姆斯新秀赛季MVP排名第9.

The worst losing streak of LeBron's career was 8 games.

The worst losing streak of Wembanyama's career is 17 games.

詹姆斯职业生涯最糟糕的一次连败是8连败。

文班亚马职业生涯最差连败场次为17场。

Lebron took a 17 win Cavs team before he was there and they won 35 games.

The spurs won 22 games last year, have 15 this year.

Do we play basketball to win the games or get impressive stats?

詹姆斯带领一支17胜的骑士赢了35场比赛，马刺去年赢了22场比赛，今年（到目前为止）赢了15场。我们打篮球是为了赢得比赛，还是为了获得令人印象深刻的数据？

As great as Lebron was as a rookie, Carmelo should have still been rookie of the year. Stats and making the playoffs, Carmelo was great that year as a rookie.

虽然詹姆斯在新秀时期表现出色，但卡梅隆-安东尼仍然应该当选年度最佳新秀。从数据和打进季后赛来看，安东尼作为新秀在那一年表现得非常出色。

The best scoring team in the league in 2004 was the Mavs with 105.2 PPG. Only them and Sacramento averaged above 100 per game.

Twenty years later, the Memphis Grizzlies are dead last in the league in scoring with 106.1 PPG, and only 3 teams are below 110 per game.

Not to rain on your parade, but this comparison isn’t justified. Stats are bloated now due to style changes and rules that didn’t exist then

With the way things are going, a bunch of guys are going to hit 30k career points in the future, and John Stocktons assist & steals records may be reachable

2004 年联盟中得分最好的球队是小牛队，场均105.2 分，只有他们和萨克拉门托国王队的场均得分超过100。

20年后，孟菲斯灰熊队以场均106.1分排名联盟倒数第一，只有3支球队的场均得分低于 110。

我不想给你添麻烦，但这种比较是没有道理的。由于风格的改变和当时还不存在的规则，现在的数据已经膨胀了。

按照现在的趋势，未来会有很多人的职业生涯总得分达到3万分，约翰-斯托克顿的助攻和抢断纪录也有可能被打破。

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