键盘侠-美网友疑惑：篮球在中国那么火 为啥中国男篮那么弱？

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[赛后贴] 昨天进行的一场男篮世界杯小组赛，中国队69-89不敌南苏丹队，遭遇两连败。美网友赛后针对本场比赛进行了讨论。

[–]Raptorssevelev711 264 points 17 hours ago

Who would win a basketball game: the second most powerful country in the world, or a country who's younger than the players on the team?

猛龙球迷：大家来猜猜，下面这两支国家篮球队进行比赛，哪一支会赢呢？

球队一：来自世界第二强国的篮球队

球队二：球员年龄比国家年龄还要大的篮球队

注：南苏丹于2011年7月9日正式宣布独立，成立南苏丹共和国。

[–]KnicksRobbobertoBuii 108 points 17 hours ago

I thought you were joking until I saw the date:

July 9, 2011

尼克斯球迷：楼上的，我本来还以为你在开玩笑呢，直到我看到了“国庆日：2011年7月9日”

[–]Admirable-Western-91 224 points 17 hours ago

They completely ignored Kyle Anderson who was clearly their best player by far for Zhou Qi who couldn’t even back down or finish at the rim at all

球迷：中国队完全忽略了李凯尔才是他们最强的点，反观周琦，目前看来他甚至连一点儿低位进攻和近筐终结能力也没有…

[–]KnicksRobbobertoBuii 66 points 17 hours ago

And an air ball FT attempt as well

尼克斯球迷：他还贡献了一记三不沾罚篮呢~~~

[–]SpursThehelloman0 43 points 15 hours ago

Watching highlights for game 1 it was so obvious Qi sucked at basketball considering his height advantage

马刺球迷：我看了第一场比赛的集锦，尽管拥有身高优势，但周琦这球打得还是肉眼可见地烂啊~~~

[–]copydex1 35 points 11 hours ago

That’s because they care too much about height. After the Japanese win yesterday, a lot of people on Chinese social media were talking about how all those shorter Japanese players would never have been picked for even a middle school team, and that China needs to rethink their selection criteria

球迷：因为中国篮球选材太在乎身高了！前天日本赢球之后，中国球迷就在社交媒体就纷纷吐槽，像日本队那种小个子球员要是放在中国，他们甚至连中学校队都进不去…他们觉得中国得重新考虑考虑篮球的选材标准了…

新闻链接>>>>>> 日本平均身高仅192cm 富坚勇树167cm 河村勇辉172cm

[–]LingCHN 18 points 10 hours ago

Height is not the problem, Zhou Qi is too skinny to play center but he has to because he is tall.

中国球迷：身高并不是症结所在~而是他们把周琦放在了中锋位置上，但是他又太瘦了！同时因为身高臂长，周琦又不得不去打中锋…

[–]copydex1 13 points 8 hours ago

That's my point, height is not a problem because Chinese basketball put a massive emphasis on height, thus forsaking skilled but shorter players like those on the Japanese team.

球迷：没错，我就是这个意思，身高并不是问题的根本！而是中国选材太注重身高了，因而放弃了那些像日本队那样的技术好但个子不高的球员…

[–]Warriorsnoodlebball 264 points 17 hours ago

China is just not very good at basketball lol

勇士球迷：中国队可真不太会打球啊…吼吼…

[–]Hawksuoco 11 points 17 hours ago

South Sudan was on fire from 3.

老鹰球迷：南苏丹三分球投疯了…

[–]KnicksRobbobertoBuii 6 points 16 hours ago

China also shot well (8/20 - 40%) but South Sudan had 7 more makes from 3 (15/30) which ended up being the reason they pulled away in the 2nd Half

尼克斯球迷：中国队三分投得也不错，20投8中，但是南苏丹多投中了7记三分（30投15中），这就是他们能在下半场带走比赛的原因~

[–]Timberwolvestomdawg0022 155 points 17 hours ago

Imagine how bad they'd be if Slo Mo didn't suit up for China

森林狼球迷：想想看，要是人类蠕动精华李凯尔没加入中国队的话，他们得弱成啥样啊…

[–][NYK] Carmelo AnthonyClutchGamingGuy 17 points 12 hours ago

Kyle was fucking atrocious in their first game though

尼克斯球迷：楼上森林狼球迷先别急着夸，之前的第一场比赛，李凯尔打得可他妈烂了我跟你说…

注：第一场对阵塞尔维亚的小组赛，李凯尔发挥不佳，全场得到0分4篮板4助攻1抢断。

[–]JALbert 122 points 16 hours ago

It's crazy to me that this is still the case despite basketball being so huge in China.

球迷：尽管篮球运动现在在中国的影响力那么大，他们却还是这么弱，太让人想不明白了…

[–]Warriorsnoodlebball 101 points 16 hours ago

With a lot of resources as well. Money isn't an issue. It's grassroots, mentality, and coaching.

勇士球迷：而且他们资源充沛，钱不是问题…他们强不起来，主要还是培养体系、心态以及训练方式的问题…

[–]GovernmentClearance -10 points 11 hours ago

Genetics

球迷：基因问题…

[–]COHandCOD 1 point 36 minutes ago

And Japan win against Nba all star led finland, its just skill issue.

球迷：日本都能赢下NBA全明星带队的芬兰队，这说明不是基因问题，就是技术问题…

注：8月27日，日本队98-88战胜由马尔卡宁领衔的芬兰队。

[–]KnicksCoilConductor 93 points 15 hours ago*

China in general is much better at developing athletes for inpidual sports rather than team sports - they’re not very good relative to their investment in soccer nor baseball too.

But they’re fine at tennis, ping pong, badminton, swimming, weight lifting etc. They’ve even got a runner every now and then. So seems at the grassroots level team coaching might be an issue? Just theorizing.

Oddly enough, volleyball seems to be an exception to this. They're ranked high in both mens and womens teams there and even medaled for womens.

尼克斯球迷：总体来说，相对于培养个体项目运动员，中国不太善于培养团体项目运动员，他们在投资足球或者棒球运动方面也不是很擅长…但是中国在网球、乒乓球、羽毛球、游泳、举重等方面做得不错，还时不时会冒出一个跑步特别厉害的运动员~所以从培养体系层面看，训练方式可能是（中国篮球较弱的）问题所在？我只是推测推测哈~~不过奇怪的是，中国排球貌似是个例外，中国男排和女排在世界排名都挺高的，女排甚至还拿过奖牌呢！

[–]Raptorswilla13 32 points 14 hours ago

Spot on, and you might notice that China basically sucks at all team sports that involve physical contacts. Kids in China play basketball for fun only, and schools don't really organize any tournaments. Selection of athletic prospects is mostly originated from less-developed areas where some families might send their kids off to the provincial training camps / "sports school", and how well you might progress down the road is mainly based on your physique (i.e. you will highly unlikely to become a PG in any provincial teams if you are only 5'5). So deep down in the root, basketball is only a job to them, and players in the CBA can earn 5x more in CBA than in other Asian leagues. With such a comfortable life, you won't really see Chinese players play with passion.

Volleyball is an exception, but only women's volleyball. It's odd that women's team seem to be achieving more success under the same regime.

猛龙球迷：楼上的兄弟你说到点子上了~~大家可能也注意到了，基本上所有需要身体对抗的团队运动中国都打得很烂…中国的孩子打篮球都是玩儿玩儿而已，学校之间也不太会举办锦标赛之类的…未来运动员的选材大部分是来自欠发达地区，那里的家长们把自己的孩子送到省训练队或者体育学校去训练，而他们的运动员之路如何走也主要取决于他们的体型（比如：如果你的身高只有165cm，那你几乎不可能在任何一个省篮球队打上控卫）。所以，归根结底，打篮球对中国运动员来说就是一份工作，而CBA的薪水又是其他亚洲篮球联赛薪水的5倍之多。在如此舒适没有压力的环境之下，很少有中国球员带着激情打球。排球确实是个例外，但仅限于女排~奇怪的是，虽然身处相同的体制之下，女队似乎比男队能取得更多的成功…

（中国女排）

[–]KnicksCoilConductor 11 points 12 hours ago

You make an interesting point about the CBA salaries being good.

In Japan, the same is the case as with baseball. It is a comfortable life to be an NPB player, but they still produce some incredible athletes that are MLB level all stars (or even the GOAT as we have right now with Ohtani). For a country as passionate about basketball as China, which isn't as limited by height, it still is a mystery the small amount of talent they produce.

尼克斯球迷：你说到了CBA薪水很可观，这一点很有趣~~在日本，棒球运动也是一样，在日本NPB棒球联盟打球的运动员，小日子过得都不错~但是他们仍然培养出了一批非常厉害的运动员，他们是MLB（美国职业棒球大联盟）全明星级别的（甚至是历史最佳级别的，比如现在的大谷翔平）。像中国这样一个对篮球充满热情、而且也没有受到身高因素的影响的国家，却只培养出如此少的篮球人才，这仍然是一个迷啊~~~

（大谷翔平）

[–]DrJayDubs 12 points 14 hours ago

Teamwork isn't very valued in China imo

球迷：我觉得是因为在中国团队协作能力不太受重视…

[–]Supersonicsdar_harhar 63 points 14 hours ago

You can say the same about my home country, Philippines. Its a basketball country but the team/coaching is booty cheeks. Id blame mostly the coaching though. Its like 90% Clarkson iso hero ball.

超音速球迷：我的祖国菲律宾也是一样~~在菲律宾篮球也很火，但是国家队以及教练烂屁了…我觉得大部分是教练的问题，因为90%的回合都是克拉克森在单打投英雄球…

（克拉克森掩面）

[–]NBAMintastic 3 points 3 hours ago

I don't know, 90% Kyle Anderson hero ball might've gone better than what we got in this game.

球迷：你可别瞎说，我怎么觉得如果90%的回合都让李凯尔持球单打，对中国队来说反而更好呢…

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