美国网友：斯蒂芬库里比科比布莱恩特好吗？

Is Stephen Curry better than Kobe Bryant?

美国网友：

还没有，但库里绝对有机会超越科比

I am well aware of Bryant's skills, impact, leadership, mental strenght. Curry has fewer titles, moreover Kobe was taller, stronger, more athletic, more able to defend effectively when he needed to.

湖人球迷：我很清楚科比的技能、影响力、领导力和精神力量。 库里的冠军头衔更少，而且科比更高，更强壮，更有运动能力，在他需要的时候更能有效地防守。

Still, I start thinking that Curry is at the same level as his, at least. He is a whole offensive system on his own, has changed the game and you cannot leave him unguarded even 30ft away from the hoop. No one is being double or tripled teamed with the same consistency and he splashes it nevertheless. His "gravity" is unbelievable. He is dangerous, a threat, even if he is off the ball.

尽管如此，我开始认为库里至少和他处于同一水平。 他自己就是一个完整的进攻体系，改变了比赛，即使距离篮筐 30 英尺，你也不能让他无人防守。 没有人以相同的一致性被双人或三人组合，尽管如此，他还是会泼水。 他的“重力”令人难以置信。 他很危险，一个威胁，即使他没有球。

If we have a look at the stats, we can see that Steph is not far behind as a scorer or a rebounder, gives more assist per game and have a much better eFG%. Defensively, Kobe surely was better but playing with O'Neal helped, I think.

If we look at the stats per 36 minutes, Curry improves a bit (34.3 minutes in regular season and 37.8 minutes during playoff for Curry, 36.1 and 39.3 for Kobe).

勇士球迷：如果我们看一下数据，我们可以看到斯蒂芬作为得分手或篮板手并不落后，每场比赛提供更多助攻，并且有更好的 eFG%。 在防守端，科比肯定更好，但我认为和奥尼尔一起打球有帮助。

如果我们看每 36 分钟的数据，库里有所提高（库里常规赛 34.3 分钟，季后赛 37.8 分钟，科比 36.1 和 39.3 分钟）。

I’m sure this discussion will be totally civil and level headed

湖人球迷：我相信这次讨论将是完全文明和冷静的

Somewhere out there is a middle schooler who never saw Kobe play and missed a lot of Steph. He has the pristine statistical analysis that proves who is better. Step forward and speak, young man.

勇士球迷：某处有一个中学生，他从未看过科比的比赛，也很想念斯蒂芬。 他拥有原始的统计分析，可以证明谁更好。 上前说话，年轻人。

Curry is weirdly underrated in general, given the impact he's had on the game.He should probably be in the conversation for Best PG Of All Time, given what he's accomplished, but his style of play and Magic's are so radically different that it feels weird to compare them.

凯尔特人球迷：考虑到库里对比赛的影响，他总体上被奇怪地低估了。考虑到他所取得的成就，他可能应该成为有史以来最佳 PG 的谈话对象，但他的比赛风格和魔术师的风格截然不同，将它们进行比较感觉很奇怪。

That's the thing. He's underrated within the best players discussion because he's such an anomaly, but it's understandable. He deserves a special mention.

勇士球迷：就是这样。 他在最佳球员的讨论中被低估了，因为他是如此的异常，但这是可以理解的。 他值得特别提及。

Steph is the biggest anomaly in basketball history. It is no shame to compare him to anyone and this is coming from a Steph hater.

湖人球迷：斯蒂芬是篮球历史上最大的异常。 将他与任何人进行比较并不可耻，这是来自斯蒂芬的仇恨者。

I only see 3-4 players who absolutely re-wrote the game in the last 40 years. Steph and MJ are the only ones who are absolutes on that list. You can argue for a few others. But Steph is absolutely, arguably, the most game changing player in NBA history.

在过去的 40 年里，我只看到 3-4 名玩家完全重写了游戏。 Steph 和 MJ 是该名单上唯一绝对的人。 你可以为其他一些人争论。 但是斯蒂芬绝对可以说是NBA历史上改变比赛规则的球员。

I think the only thing holding back Steph from a GOAT discussion is his lack of a finals MVP, and I absolutely believe he should’ve won it in 15, and arguably in 18.

我认为唯一阻碍斯蒂芬参加 GOAT 讨论的是他缺乏总决赛 MVP，我绝对相信他应该在 15 场，甚至可以说是 18 场比赛中赢得冠军。

Hence why if you take him #1 in an all-time draft, it's not so outlandish. His talent can't be replicated by anyone else

因此，为什么如果你在历史选秀中将他选为第一，这并没有那么古怪。 他的才华是别人无法复制的

Kobe has a deeper bag of tricks and would play better in a 1 on 1 setting, which a lot of people seem to value, but this isn’t a 1 on 1 sport. If I’m being asked who I’d rather have on my team, I think it’s Curry. And in terms of career accolades, we’ll just have to see how the rest of Currys career goes — he certainly looks like a third MVP and fourth ring aren’t out of the question.

湖人球迷：科比有更深的技巧，在一对一的环境中会打得更好，很多人似乎都看重这一点，但这不是一对一的运动。 如果有人问我更愿意让谁加入我的球队，我想是库里。 就职业荣誉而言，我们只需要看看库里职业生涯的其余部分如何——他当然看起来像第三个 MVP 和第四枚戒指并不是不可能的。

In the modern nba game, yeah. Curry’s ability, via movement and shooting, on offense to warp defenses and induce a minimum of 3 defenders at a time to simultaneously defecate in their shorts accounting for him is something even the great Kobe could never do.

勇士球迷：在现代nba比赛中，是的。 库里的能力，通过移动和投篮，在进攻中扭曲防守，并同时诱导至少 3 名防守者同时穿着短裤排便，即使是伟大的科比也做不到这一点。

Kobe in the modern era would be like harden. He’d have the ball, a higher usage rating and a larger green light.

I think MJ or Kobe in the modern era would be the best players in the league. All that spacing and full control of the ball? They’d be attacking relentlessly

现代时代的科比就像哈登一样。 他将拥有球权，更高的使用率和更大的绿灯。

我认为现代时代的 MJ 或科比将是联盟中最好的球员。 所有的间距和对球的完全控制？ 他们会无情地进攻

Feel like Steph Curry is “better” as in more skilled and refined but Kobe is undoubtedly greater.

骑士球迷：感觉斯蒂芬库里“更好”，因为技术和精致，但科比无疑更伟大。

I mean Kobe was kind of a precurser to this. He had that midrange gravity. He was also a much more consistent playoff performer.

湖人球迷：我的意思是科比是这方面的先驱。 他有那种中等重力。 他也是一个更加稳定的季后赛表现。

This. Curry would be considered a better player than Kobe in the modern era.In older eras Curry wouldn't be given the chance to do what he does now.

湖人球迷：这个。 在现代，库里会被认为是比科比更好的球员。在较旧的时代，库里不会有机会做他现在所做的事情。

What Curry does from the 3 point line, putting up crazy contested shots is what Kobe did from mid range. I feel like the difference maker is that Kobe was an elite defender for most of his career. Curry’s defence has been adequate for most of his career.

湖人球迷：库里在三分线上所做的，在中距离投出疯狂的有争议的投篮是科比所做的。 我觉得与众不同的是，科比在他职业生涯的大部分时间里都是一名精英防守者。 库里的防守在他职业生涯的大部分时间里都足够了。

Two different players, different eras, different positions

勇士球迷：两个不同的球员，不同的时代，不同的位置

This feels like a cop-out to me. It's not that hard to compare different players, positions are mostly meaningless and kind of always have been, and even if we can't come to a definitive conclusion between eras, we can still learn a lot by discussing it...

马刺球迷：这对我来说就像是逃避。 比较不同的球员并没有那么难，位置大多是没有意义的，一直都是这样，即使我们不能在时代之间得出一个明确的结论，我们仍然可以通过讨论来学习……

Its a hard one to debate tbh. I think Steph and Kobe are in the same tier. People might give the edge to Kobe due to his defense and more perse offensive arsenal

尼克斯球迷：这是一个很难辩论的 tbh。 我认为斯蒂芬和科比处于同一级别。 由于科比的防守和更多样化的进攻武器库，人们可能会给予他优势

Curry doesn't need to be that perse lol. He's arguably the biggest offensive cheat code in NBA history

太阳球迷：库里不需要那么多样化，哈哈。 他可以说是NBA历史上最大的进攻作弊代码

Curry shifted the meta, to use a gaming term, unlike anyone in generations. Kobe was amazing, top 5 all time, but he was just another Jordan-esque swingman. Not to belittle the legend, but Kobe did not literally alter the strategy of NBA teams for the rest of history lol. It's commonplace for teams to chuck up 25+ 3s per game now, that was very uncommon before Steph.

猛龙球迷：库里改变了元数据，使用一个游戏术语，这与几代人不同。 科比很棒，一直排名前五，但他只是另一个乔丹式的摇摆人。 不是贬低这位传奇人物，但科比并没有在历史上改变NBA球队的战略，哈哈。 现在球队每场比赛投进 25 个以上的三分已经司空见惯，这在斯蒂芬之前是非常罕见的。

Curry is in the Kobe conversation if we only talk about scoring, but we can’t ignore the fact that Kobe has more All-NBA Defense selections than anyone, ever.

湖人球迷：如果我们只谈论得分，库里在科比的谈话中，但我们不能忽视科比拥有比任何人都多的 NBA 最佳防守阵容的事实。

No not yet, but Curry definitely has a chance to pass Kobe. He's got what, 5~7 more years in the league?

湖人球迷：还没有，但库里绝对有机会超越科比。 他有什么，在联盟里还有 5 到 7 年的时间？

I mean 5 years seems about right. In 7 years he'll be 40 and he's had some injuries over the years.

活塞球迷：我的意思是 5 年似乎是正确的。 7 年后他将 40 岁，这些年来他受了一些伤。

Pretty much this, Curry has a better peak but Kobe played at a high level for a very long time, Steph still has a ways to go to match that.

差不多这样，库里有一个更好的顶峰，但科比打了很长时间的高水平，斯蒂芬还有很长的路要走。

I'm a Curry stan, but Kobe is still definitely above Curry all time. Something I find interesting is that both Kobe and Curry had 3 rings but 0 FMVPs after their first 5 Finals appearances. I'm hoping that Curry could follow in Kobe's footsteps by finally winning a FMVP in his 6th Finals appearance, but I know that championships are so hard to come by.

勇士球迷：我是一个库里斯坦，但科比仍然绝对高于库里。 我觉得有趣的是，在前 5 次总决赛出场后，科比和库里都拿到了 3 枚戒指，但获得了 0 个 FMVP。 我希望库里能够追随科比的脚步，在他第 6 次总决赛出场中最终赢得 FMVP，但我知道总冠军来之不易。

The game changed because of Curry

森林狼球迷：比赛因为库里而改变

I would say no but it’s close honestly

活塞球迷：我会说不，但老实说它很接近

Hard to compare player vs player when it comes to Curry.His off ball presence is insane. It’s like a hockey assist.

勇士球迷：谈到库里，很难比较球员与球员。他的无球状态是疯狂的。 这就像曲棍球助攻。

I'll take Steph in this era, Kobe definitely before the 2000s.

猛龙球迷：我会选择这个时代的斯蒂芬，绝对是 2000 年代之前的科比。

There’s a chance he could eventually pass him, but I have Kobe #9 all-time and Curry #15

热火球迷：他有可能最终超过他，但我有科比排名第 9 和库里排名第 15

They’re the same tier. That being said even if Curry wins another title, they will still be of the same tier. Curry and Kobe are both top 10 players that don’t have a sustainable shot at the GOAT conversation. It puts them on the Duncan, Bird, Magic level and even if you put Curry last on the list, it’s still comparable level. Now personally I have Kobe higher in that tier since he has 5 championships with 2 Finals MVP. This could very well change in the years to come but there’s a decent gap for me

山猫球迷：他们是同一层。 话虽如此，即使库里赢得另一个冠军，他们仍将处于同一级别。 库里和科比都是前 10 名在 GOAT 对话中没有持续机会的球员。 它把他们放在邓肯、伯德、魔术的水平上，即使你把库里放在最后，它仍然是可比的水平。 现在我个人认为科比在那个级别更高，因为他有 5 个总冠军和 2 个总决赛 MVP。 这在未来几年很可能会发生变化，但对我来说差距很大

This is an impossible thing to determine, but I think most would agree that Curry is very unlikely to have the drop off that Kobe had.Curry’s skill set will translate much better to older age whereas Kobe was literally a deficit to his team when he stepped on the floor the last couple years.

马刺球迷：这是一个不可能确定的事情，但我认为大多数人都会同意库里不太可能像科比那样下降。库里的技术可以更好地转化为年龄较大的人，而科比过去几年上场时对他的球队来说确实是一个赤字。

I’d take Curry. Kobe proved he could be an insane volume scorer, and a winner, but they came at different points, and I think a lot of his incredible scoring streaks in the mid 2000’s were for nothing considering the lack of team success in between the Shaq and late 00’s teams. Curry’s been more consistent in being amazing for his team, but that might lend more to his system under Kerr.

尼克斯球迷：我会选择库里。 科比证明了他可以成为一个疯狂的得分手和一个胜利者，但他们来自不同的点，我认为他在 2000 年代中期的许多令人难以置信的连续得分是毫无意义的，考虑到球队在奥尼尔和后期之间缺乏成功00后队。 库里在为他的球队表现出色方面更加稳定，但这可能会在科尔的带领下为他的体系提供更多帮助。